When Does Asta Use Demon Magic Again?
Boxing rules
full power asta.
demon mark meliodas.
asta can access Demonic Transformation.
morals on for meliodas/morals off for asta.
standard equipment
win by death or K.O.
no Assault Mode for meliodas.
Who wins?
Asta speed blitzes.
Mel could one shot if he actually managed to tag him but Asta is way also fast and his swords can nullify regeneration. To note that Vetto was able to regenerate his arm and almost half his trunk with ease yet couldn't heal later Asta's sword disrupted his internal magic
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Information technology's a tough. Mel outclasses him in every expanse bar speed and reactions. A lot of BC fans will argue that Asta has mountain level physicals scalling to the peak tiers similar Vetto but I just don't feel similar there is plenty bear witness back up that.
Meliorate question is which magic "no u" is amend between the two?
Mel stomps
Aoe revenge counter ane shots
Base meliodas is going to stomp him. He is style faster, physically stronger past alot, op healing, 3000 years old and one of the all-time swordsmen in the series. Demon marker is basically doubles his all stats making him even op. He would erase asta from beingness.
I am following both black clover and vii deadly sins only the difference is too much. Astas feats are good but not good enough to even put him against post druid (32k power level) meliodas. Top teirs of nanatsu no tazai are too much for black comprehend verse
Asta tin't move at lightspeed: he tin can react to lightspeed attacks if he uses Ki Sensing. He can't merely run around similar the flash, and he's explicitly shown to movement slower than all the other strong characters, even when he'due south using Manner Black.
Meliodas wins decisively
Asta is FTL and so he speedblitzes
Meliodas should win if he can tag Asta. But honestly, the fact that meliodas is handicapped to such an extent, shows why this battle shouldn't be a thing, in my stance.
Even if we put composite meliodas (electric current) he can't do annihilation against Asta crusade of the speed difference
I really detest seeing battles where somebody is nerfed. Meliodas hands subsides Asta with his darkness then punches him into paste like he did Fraudrin.
Asta should win piece of cake for now.
Asta due to speed
Meliodas uses a twig & solos.
Mel stomp with ease
Are you guys insane? Asta wins with fiddling to no endeavor
Mel doesn't stand a chance without set on style
Meliodas summons his clones and sits back as they do all the work lol
Asta past virtue of speed. Granted, if Mel gets a hit in, Asta gets splattered
Speed is nice and all only mel still uas seven hearts that demand to be stabbed.
As well 7 hearts that asta doesnt know most.
And aoe handles speed
Ontop of that. On assail from ends him. If not then 2 or three
Meliodas low-mid dif
Mel wins. Asta may exist faster, but revenge counter is a huge gene hither.
@nashiruu: Revenge Counter is his trump carte du jour, he doesn't use it correct off the bat. Also, does revenge counter even works against non-magical attacks?
And revenge counter depends on i factor: Meliodas tanking hits to use it. All you lot need to have to bargain with that is Durability Negation (which Asta has btw)
Not merely Asta is blitzing, but he also has regeneration negation and is arguably stronger (even if he'southward not, he has Immovability Negation and Soul Manipulation). I don't see how Asta loses this
Asta doesn't move at lightspeed idk why people keep saying this, he has reacted to it via precog from ki which is definitely impressive merely people need to relax with this ftl bullshit
@garrettmana: none of what y'all said disproves FTL for Asta smh. Ki merely lets you predict the opponent's next moves and nix else, but because know a bullet is coming doesn't mean you volition automatically dodge it.
Also, he still did an FTL feat past stopping Gauche'south lasers, something he did before fifty-fifty learning ki.
Endeavour once more.
@okcool: Julius can already solo.
Meliodas trashes Asta hard, magic cancellation is only an result for a heavy magic user. Because of Meliodas' direct confrontational style of fighting, Asta has to face him head-on as a swordsman. Not a chance in Hell that Asta is a better swordsman than Meliodas, and Meliodas still has 7 goddamn hearts! He tin can be hacked to pieces and set himself and has Lost Vayne, making it 5v1 in a sword boxing.
Even if Asta is considered faster, Meliodas can tank everything Asta is dishing because Asta is only urban center level at best. Asta isn't even mount busting even so, which Meliodas could do without his Sacred Treasure. ASta is too prone to taking damage, and in a fight of endurance, he can't last long confronting Meliodas.
"City level at best"
LoL. Only. LoL.
Meliodas would curb Asta if he could actually hit him. Hard nerf for sir Mel though
Saying current Asta is City level at best is downplay.
-Far stronger than Neige who brought a snow storm beyond a whole city
-Stabbed Vetto, who overpowered Yami. Finral stated Yami destroyed mountains when he clashed with Jack
-Tanked and Reflected a fireball that could destroy a large mountain
-Stronger to Luck who brought a Thunderstorm across a whole city
Then saying he's City level at best is ridiculous and I'd like to know why he shouldn't be college
Yous tin can even say that Asta is Land level
-Defeated the Burn Salamander, which is stated to be able to vaporize the sea with one assail
-Stronger than Lumiere who defeated the giant Demon. Same demon is hundreds of times bigger than big mountains and then he should exist Isle/Large Island by size alone.
-That same demon also brought a tempest across the land and threatened to destroy the land with ane assault.
Meliodas in the other mitt should be Island to Big Island, just not higher. Therefore, Asta should be potent enough to damage him if non stronger than him
And even if Meliodas somehow is stronger, Asta's Blackness Divider bypasses Durability then it's even easier for him to harm Mel than just beingness stronger.
Unfair speed Advantage + Immovability Negation + Regeneration Negation + Soul Manipulation to an extent + Precognition + Anti-Magic + Causality Manipulation + arguably AP and Immovability advantage. If speed was equalized, I could fence that Mel wins via skill reward but that's not the case then.....
How is Asta supposed to lose?
The trouble i see is asta needs to cut all 7 (or 6. i forgot) of meliodas hearts that he has no knowledge of.
And moves similar revenge counter brand that already difficult task harder.
@nootherpurpose1: Blackness Divider is large enough to take 2 or iii of his hearts at a time
@epsilonr:
-Far stronger than Neige who brought a snow storm across a whole city
A snow tempest covering a urban center isn't even close to urban center level unless it destroyed the urban center.
-Finral stated Yami destroyed mountains when he clashed with Jack
Without the feats to back information technology up, that argument is dubious.
-Tanked and Reflected a fireball that could destroy a large mountain
Tin can I see this feat?
-Stronger to Luck who brought a Thunderstorm beyond a whole urban center
Once again, not city level unless the urban center is destroyed.
You lot can fifty-fifty say that Asta is Land level
-Defeated the Fire Salamander, which is stated to exist able to vaporize the sea with one attack
Yet it has no feats that come even close to backing that up.
-Stronger than Lumiere who defeated the giant Demon. Same demon is hundreds of times bigger than large mountains so he should exist Isle/Large Island by size alone.
Asta isn't stronger than Lumiere... The demon isn't hundreds of times bigger than large mountains either. Information technology is the height of a actually large mountain, but mass wise it is smaller.
-That same demon also brought a storm beyond the country and threatened to destroy the land with one attack.
We don't know if the entire country would have been destroyed, but Asta isn't on the level of that demon, Lumiere, or any of the god tiers. He is low captain level, and one of the elves that gave Yami a run for his money was only going to destroy a boondocks with her strongest attack.
So while an argument tin be made for the god tiers of BC being small land level, Asta isn't one of them. He is only so skillful in his verse due to his magic negation and high concrete strength and speed.
Meliodas could effortlessly i shot if he has a ability level of 32,500 and beyond. While meliodas being incomparable in terms of strength and overall immovability, it seems like Asta is faster than light while electric current meliodas is probably Relativistic+ and maybe even light speed but Asta would be able to blitz Meliodas. If speed is equalized though, Meliodas would stomp Asta due to having massively superior force and durability, and also having Abilities that are extremely difficult to counter similar, Hellblaze which literally won't exist able to be put out unless yous are someone as magically powerful every bit merlin, Hellblaze is literally an ability that tin permanently damage immortals and leave massive scars on people like Ban who tin can shrug off beingness blown to nothing and almost instantly regenerate. Another troubling ability that Meliodas has would be revenge counter which would be a final resort, even then depending on how much damage Meliodas absorbs, he volition send it all back in 1 strike at Asta instantly killing him or at the very least heavily injuring him. Full counter is useless because Asta don't use any magic. I thousand divine cuts would absolutely destroy Asta if the speed was equalized, because Meliodas literally cuts you over one k times in one 2d, due to Meliodas having much superior strength, Asta would get sliced similar butter. Meliodas can also instantly regenerate from fatal wounds using his darkness regeneration and Asta can't counter this ane either. Trillion night is also an assault so fast that even the demon king was nowhere near being able to react to it, in a speed equalized matchup that attack would one shot Asta no problem. If the speed wasn't equalized and Asta is FTL and so it is a tossup considering Meliodas has so many god damn abilities and is vastly superior in every other style except speed, simply in a speed equalized boxing though Asta would get his donkey kicked completely.
@epsilonr: The just affair keeping Meliodas from absolutely destroying Asta is his speed, every other stat Meliodas is massively superior in.
@revold: Not really true if the speed is equalized
Asta blitzes and solos the NNT verse. Low-cal speed/FTL GG.
Asta. Asta is faster, he can negate all his magic, he has precog (ki) and he can fly. I run across some stupid ppl on here saying that Mel tin employ total counter and revenge counter on him, merely Asta literally has anti magic smh it wouldn't work. Asta is battle smart and so he'll effigy out how Mel fights so he wouldn't get to close. And wit ki he maybe will be able to sense he has 7 hearts so he would target those, wit Blackness Divider he could stay at a distance but also set on Mel and take out his 7 hearts.
@samsaknight: Meliodas. Meliodas is also fast, he actually surprised Ludociel (lightspeed) when he suddenly popular upwardly in front of him statistically saying, he will be MUCH faster at present since he got the ability of the Demon King. Meliodas is 3000+ years old meaning, he can also "predict" the incoming moves of the enemy since he was fighting for the virtually of his life. The revenge counter is counted equally magic (emits the stored damage taken) just full counter isn't, it's a ability/technic that allow the user to reverberate the incoming magic attacks, considering Black Divider because information technology is a spell or more likely an item that is accompanied by magic (Anti-magic is counted every bit a magic), Meliodas can counter that sword and that is shown when Chandler (tin can also full counter) countered King's increase (Chastiefol'southward form{information technology's a sacred treasure, technically a weapon}). If all of these are withal not enough, Meliodas actually have an original power and its called "Overdrive", information technology can obliterate ANYTHING and it was shown when Meliodas desintegrated the Demon King's arm which is a GOD.
Meliodas for now. Asta's faster but not strong enough.
Base of operations Mel va base asta = Mel wins in the long run
set on fashion Mel vs half demon form asta= asta in the long run
DK Mel vs current asta = Mel mid diff practise asta existence faster
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